Despite having Zwift set to 3s Avg for Power Display, the Suito has a separate configuration for Power Smoothing. If you’re new around these parts, here’s the long version of my story. Looks like a dream…. Great first trainer from Crossjamin September 23, 2020 After 6 months I've been very happy with the Suito, with a few minor issues along the way. It calculates your form based on your power data. The lighter flywheel (less inertia) is immediately noticeable. 3) And might even resolve wobble to be honest, it’s possible The Suito follows the same app compatibility standards as previous Elite products, and essentially follows the industry norms as you’d expect from a high-end trainer. I thought I could make do, but for something so expensive, you shouldn't need to put up with that. It’d easily fit in a suitcase. Relatively quiet (drivetrain and fan are louder than the trainer). I have up hope to get a solution soon. That 30mm nut is tight (by hand) – don’t actually have a wrench big enough to check further. It’s going to measure how long it takes to coast to a stop. With ERG you aren’t supposed to change gears as the unit will increase or decrease resistance to maintain the target power. Used Jon’s mix on zwift to compare both.. All is fine below 200-250W. There are no instructions for example, how to pair it, that they have apps, what the apps actually do, how to use it with a Garmin, for example, and a whole host of other issues.”. It’s just that there’s still a divide there – primarily driven by that flywheel weight. Needless to say, the shifting is still not great and I cannot get into the smallest cog. And it has been great for that - it took up very little room in the boot/trunk when we went interstate. The Elite Suito Smart Trainer ensures stability and durability even during intense sprints. DiretoX are coming down to EUR649 or even 629. I noticed it with the saddle and when holding the hands on handlebar.It is not the same as if i would have the bike on the wheels, i mean not straight. I had trainer difficulty at 100%. They get these at cost. I need to buy a wrench for this. They made a secondary change in early October that they believe has fixed it for all units since then. And it has been great for that - it took up very little room in the boot/trunk when we went interstate. I used the two supplied spacers to fit the cassette to the freehub, without them the cassette doesn’t tighten, just the smallest cog. Would recommend. And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. Have the teething issues with this one been addressed? Commerce content is independent of editorial, and Farrelly Atkinson earns commission from promoted products. RM. Is there any label on the box? It sounded like one of those rock polishers you might of had when you were a kid. I am convinced mine is under reading but do not have a power meter to compare against. I have read through all the comments. It has a carry handle, folds up very nicely and already comes with a rear cassette. I had to end my ride and reconnect the trainer. Couldn’t find it on Elite’s website . Any ideas? But that only works in level mode, not in ERG mode I suppose? Extremely easy to setup, very quiet, accurate power meter and easy to carry with its holder. It came from my chain lube. With Wahoo trainers it’s as simple as an option within their app. I'm very pleased with my Elite Suito which is doing it's job perfectly. I figure I should update.. After zero help from elite, only mixed responses of I should deal with the retailer..retailer did not understand elite warranty system.. New one showed up yesterday, no issues at all, jumped on Zwift and had a blast. However, it is important that you set the wheel circumference according to the manual. Calibration instructions tend to be wrong, but it will work if you spin up much faster than instructed. You have to pay Elite annually for this privilege. Meaning, those early batches were shipped in August or so for US folks getting them in early October. Returned mine today under warranty, they said it takes about 4 weeks to get it back from elite. Again a SUK serial no, hardware revision 3, with latest firmware v191 already on it. Easy setup Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. Is anyone still experienced having to send them back because of the issues ? Impossible to fault after nearly 6000km. Elite Suito from Mad Pierre September 8, 2020 First experience of a smart trainer. I noted that merely because even the same trainer will produce two different recorded files due to transmission and recording timing rates. I experience some delay in response. F, the next day it is snowing and 30 deg. Biomechanically, you are activating different muscle groups due to the vast difference in momentum. So, I’m afraid it’s not gone work. If the flex includes the flywheel moving side to side (which I suppose it does from your description, because I could also feel mine wiggling in the opposite direction of my pedaling – very annoying), then I would first check if the 30mm but on the opposite side of the cassette is still tight. True, but the deviation increases when power goed up, it is 30% below 170w, and up to 50% above 220w. You’d never know, because they indexed the gears ‘correctly’ for the incorrect spacers. Please take note that Suito has an high precision power calculation that consider the inertia of the flywheel and also the way and how smooth you pedaling is, a fluctuation on the power is so completely normal, and it does not indicate a trainer issue but it is the consequence of its high precision, A fluctuation on the power (sometimes it could be up to 20-25W) is completely normal and caused by the above consideration”. I am having some issues with the setup using a 10-speed Shimano Cannondale. Am I right that Suito itself cannot connect to the HR Ant belt and then send the data to e.g Zwift or Elite my-Etraining app via Bluetooth? Hi there! Set up was a total breeze, connection to Zwift was painless, it is almost totally silent (the drive train is way louder that the trainer) and stores away in a snap. Seems to me they just release trainers without at least 10 ppl testing it. Versus European folks getting them in October were basically built the week prior. Especially when I ramp up to 100rpm ish. So, I ignored it. I’ve used the DC rainmaker app to compare reading from my new FSA powerbox to the one month old trainer. I got it on late Sept / early Oct 2019, model with longer cable (but supposedly, the model without the fixed bearing installation procedure – which was mid Oct as far as I read). BUT, it has the wobbly flywheel. And in most cases, most companies decided to take a twofer approach – hitting both issue groups instead of just taking one serving. This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. So at this point I kinda had to agree that it was Zwift. So I kept my second. It also has a far more natural feel. After 7k+ km still no issues! Down along the base are the foldable legs. i’m looking for a descent (well-built, stable) and accurate trainer. FWIW my power has been 0 – 1000 watts. Again, if you’ve got a unit and don’t feel anything – then you’ve got one that’s fine. The only negative, which is more a an annoyance than anything else, is that you cant calibrate i zwift - instead having to us the Elite MyEtraining....and then a different app to upgrade the firware. I use Elite Qubo Fluid, i dont use Zwift or another program, simply – pedals with powermeter, fil/music – go. This is in Europe, so either it’s a new unit and they’ve not fixed the issues, or I suspect they’re maybe even sending out refurbished units to fulfill new orders. I am a (un)handyman. For example, check out these two moderate 600w surges I did – it easily nailed the wattage here: And then again at these 800w sprints I did – it’s virtually identical between the different power sources: If we look at the Mean/Max graphs for this ride, you’ll see the values are also super close across all the devices (and recording types): Nobody would quibble about those numbers, that’s for sure. It doesn’t seem to interfere with the accuracy of the data either. Will you test our product before release? I was in the market for a new trainer in nov-dec, and based on the specs Suito fits (suits my needs very well. Since this is my first trainer I have nothing to compare to except outdoor riding. With Suito I have been able to get back into a routine and not just that. The Elite Suito is a direct-drive bike trainer that comes ready-to-go right out of the box. Since the beggining of the pandemic im 100% indoors, having a huge improvement on my cycling and most important happy&healthy ! Per all the reviews, its not as quiet as the post 2018 Kickr/Cores, but its not like the trainers of old either. Thought I had a problem when I found black powder under the trainer. The drive is very realistic feeling, the resistance switches very smoothly in ERG mode and the unit is relatively quiet. Though, that trainer lacks the power of the Direto X, and doesn’t include a power meter. The Elite Direto X goes to 18%, the Elite Zumo to 12% the Wahoo KICKR CORE simulates up to 16%, while the Tacx Flux S is down at 10%. You can see in the screenshots I got it to succeed (iPad via Bluetooth Smart). I decided to test using my Android phone with BLE FTMS and the trainer gods smiled upon me as I experienced resistance. Did a calibration before the test. But you will hit 300W at a lower cadence on a given gear, or on a shorter gear at a given cadence, if you put the control to 100%. It goes on sale for 619$ +40$ shipping, every 3rd day. In a perfect trainer world you’d see the yellow line very close to the blue line. Too bad they couldn’t send a new one out once they had a tracking number of the unit I sent back today. That is, it worked until Saturday. All options seem to be taken with a small rock sized chance of a bad unit. Was the elite suito noisy Instead, what matters is actually a harder metric to make clear – which is the ability to simulate high grades and lower speeds (especially if you’re a heavier cyclist). Other than this, the trainer has been working fine. I think I’ll have to get in touch with Elite and make a warranty claim, after this whole confinement thing is over of course, otherwise I have no means of training at all….:/. This trainer is really easy to use. Now it is reporting 20-30% lower power or not engaging the correct resistance AND it started screeching. Elite support soon put me straight. “Let’s be clear: set up is a HUGE HASSLE. My Ultegra also works fine, especially when using the small chainring and central part of the sprocket. Thanks. If I just turn it off for a couple seconds and turn it on, the speed then seems to start reporting correctly for that wattage. Ever since I purchased my Elite Suito in December 2019 it has a tendency to make an awful screeching sound every now and again. So I get horrible high speed values and I am messing up all my statistics. Good luck and Happy New Year. I then used approximately the same gear I had used in Zwift within Elite and that resulted in a successful calibration. Plug in the Elite Suite and it turns on and starts actively looking for bluetooth/ant+ connections. PS: make sure your phone screen won’t turn off during the firmware upgrade. That keeps it from decapacitating itself when you trip over the cable. Yes I agree, more likely to hear from issues rather than praise. It's not cheap compared to wheel-on trainer but it's quiet and you don't have to worry about tire pressure. And technically, there are two apps here. is it possible for you to help to bring clarification? First, it comes with everything you need (i.e., cassette installed) but two things that are underrated about this trainer is its compact size (as wide as the skewer) and it's lightweight making it easy to move around in a small apartment. link to forum.elite-it.com, – Bluetooth doesn’t work properly. They had me send them an email with my name, address, serial number of the unit, description of the problem and a video of it happening. It’s had a slight knocking sound from the beginning but I wasn’t too bothered by out. So this should be one of the newest iterations (even the name of the product in the eshop was “Elite Suito 2021”). The myETraining app is quite powerful, although Zwifters probably won’t use any of its features beyond calibration. But you will have to spend more money. » Hands-On: Elite’s New $799 Suito Smart Trainer (with cassette), » Elite Direto X Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Zumo Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Direto XR Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, Winter 2019-2020 Trainer Recommendations Guide, Elago R1 Apple TV Remote Silicone Case with Strap, Indoor Cycle Trainer Desk (RAD/Lifeline/Vinsetto/Conquer/etc...), 4iiii Fliiiight Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, click here to Subscribe without commenting. I’m looking at multiple factors here. Or a really fancy Victorian couch or something. (Note: All of the charts in these accuracy sections were created using the DCR Analyzer tool. Update: After further back-and-forth with Elite, I believe the issue comes down to Power Smoothing. The first serie came with a power cable that was a little bit too short and I got a new longer power cable free of charge directly from Elite. I did a spindown with the my ETraining app (Zwift no longer has the littler wrench to allow calibration), which led to no improvement. Overall a great value for the non perfectionist. I have the Suito synced to an Apple 4K TV and use it for Zwift My previous trainer was a dumb trainer, for that reason i used to have horrible memories on indoor trainers, suito really changed it. I guess the question is: Is the Suito fixed? The source of those issues varied though. And – because when it rains it pours, some retailers would undoubtedly have extra stock still. That seems like a bit of a tall tale given the tests run on the review don’t show this. One core test I do with all trainers though is responsiveness: How quickly does it respond to ERG mode changes? Elite Suito from XZwyft September 8, 2020 This is my first smart trainer. Higher frequencies/rpms excitate stiffer parts, lower frequencies weaker parts. This trainer has a built in power meter and cadence sensor. I’m headed to Paris – what do you recommend for training or sightseeing? Guess I’m out 600 bucks. You need to change the ‘Trainer Difficulty’ level to 100% in order to feel it (and most people don’t bother to). Hi. This is first time experience for me on a direct drive trainer (apart from some bike expos) and I’m not sure about noise level of my Suito. For example, here it is doing the spin-down within Zwift on an iPad using Bluetooth Smart: It’s super easy to do, you just pedal a bit fast for a moment until it reaches a given threshold speed, and then you stop pedaling. It’s profile folded up allows it to be put under a bed or couch. Can someone send me a photo of such information? With one ring it had been too loose. Wattage is not hard-set, only incline levels. Slight delay in ERG mode and sometimes shows inaccurate cadence numbers in sprints. I am convinced something is not right at all. Purchased Elite Suito in mid December for plug and play features. Since that has been fixed, I have had many km on the trainer and starting a new season very soon:), Great direct drive trainer that is easy setup and store away from Triggerhappy September 15, 2020 Since this is my first trainer I can't really provide any comparison to other brands or models. Here’s their promo video (Zwift even makes a cameo appearance): At $799USD, the Suito’s specifications and pricing have it competing with the Wahoo KICKR Core ($899), Tacx Flux S ($749), and Elite’s own Direto ($799). Hoe moet ik mijn difficulty instelling zetten bij instellingen (trainer) ? online competitions) I may wish to use my new bike, which is SRAM Force 12-Speed. I’ve come from a tacx flux which is like a brick. Nope. the coupling with zwift is problem-free and it works perfectly. Scott. I live in an appartment and have a soon to be one year old child, so for me sound levels are pretty important. Easy setup Realistic inertiaWell-built Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. Read lots of reviews and narrowed it down to the Suito. I’ve had it for 2-3 weeks and it has performed really well, but unfortunately after about 5 hours of riding it developed the ticking noise. Product details Product Dimensions : 27 x 11 x 24 inches; 44 Pounds I don’t zwift or anything so it doesn’t really bother me if I can still use it in ERG mode so haven’t pursued a fix. I returned this trainer and went to a Kickr Core, and instantly felt easier at a steady 200w effort, even after calibrating twice. Now it’s like 2 hours later than I had wanted to ride, my lame attempt at pre-workout nutrition somewhat ruined. Like the Elite Zumo, it doesn’t quite nail the set point s as good as some higher-end trainers. It doesn’t connect via Bluetooth Smart unfortunately, but does ANT+ – so no good for your smartphone, but will work for your computer. Hi Rob! If I turn the pedals, this silver wheel seems to have a flat spot. 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